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Your College is Not a Technical School
NOVEMBER 17, 2005 · 113 COMMENTS
I went to school with some of the smartest people in the world–people whose knowledge and insight would stun you regularly–but you wouldn’t always know it. Maybe it was the guy who didn’t know how to pump his own gas, or the girl whose monotone voice and paragraph-long questions made me want to jump off a bridge and stab myself on the way down (want to be doubly sure). I don’t know.
But one of the stupidest things I heard thrown around was the question of which major would help get a job. It went something like this: “All the econ majors get jobs in consulting, so maybe I should do that…” (thousand-yard stare).
I’m so tired of hearing this that I am seriously considering walking a crocodile on a leash wherever I go and having him chomp off the arms of the stupid people who say this.
Your college is not a technical school. If you simply want a job, you can go to ITT Tech. Instead, I think college is about meeting interesting people, doing what’s interesting to you, becoming very good at it, and marketing yourself.
What I’m saying is different than the old, conventional thinking about life (“Go to school, pick a safe major, get a good job, and be a cog in the machine for the rest of your life”). I even know some parents who insist their children get master’s degrees. Why? “It looks good.”
When senior year rolls around and people are looking for jobs, it’s amusing to see the contradictions in what we believe and what our opportunities really are. For example, a funny but sad barrier people use on their own job hunt: “I’m an English major, so I can’t apply to be an investment banker.” No, the reason you can’t be a banker is that you selected yourself out of the applicant pool based on your ignorant assumptions.
Your major isn’t as important as you think. It’s what you’ve done that distinguishes you.
I think the point of school is much more than to simply get some credentials, and it’s certainly much more than to learn the stuff you do in class. In fact, ask your friends who graduated how much of their coursework they use on a daily basis. For almost every major, the answer is exactly the same: not much. Instead, college should ideally teach you how to think and give you a broad-based skill set that you can apply almost anywhere.
Priorities are important
When I was in school, my priorities were (in order)…
2. My own business stuff
Before you write me telling me that grades come first because your parents are paying $3895823523, please note that I agree–you have to get decent grades. No argument: If you have a 2.0 GPA, you’re probably not getting a good job right out of college.
But I have a couple of things I want to talk about: First, grades are important for grad school and, to a limited extent, for your first job. After that, nobody gives a damn. Second–and this is my own personal opinion, of course–I’d rather get moderately good grades while having a social life and doing a bunch of interesting stuff, rather than focusing exclusively on school so I could get an A+. What’s an A+? It’s a letter and a character…on a piece of paper.
Plus, it’s often prohibitively hard to get from a B- to an A. In other words, it’s not too hard to get to an 85%, but getting from there to a 95% is really hard. If you can do it while managing your time, great (and frankly, most top students do). Is it worth it every time? No way.
Oh my god, Ramit!!! Are you suggesting we don’t get the best grades we can?!?!?
No, but I like when you get really agitated like that. Of course everybody should try to get the best grades they can. But there’s more to school than grades. And this is why I think that doing cool stuff that produces tangible results is really important. For example, do you have a portfolio of projects you’ve designed? Do you have a blog? Do you have a strong network of great people who can help you find the right job? Do you have articles you’ve written for different newspapers? What do you have besides a conventional, boring transcript to show what you did for the last 4 years?
I think I could probably learn 80% of my college career simply from reading the books. But the last 20%–the hardest and most valuable part–came from talking to people, bouncing ideas off them, doing my own startup stuff, and making a bunch of mistakes. And I did all of this in the relative safety of college, where the worst that can happen is you get a “-” next to one of the letter grades on your transcript.
I wrote about a similar thing in my article on greed and speed, where I said that if you build something valuable, the money will come. The same is true of jobs: If you do interesting work, have great friends, build a great network of supporters, and market yourself, the employers will come. In fact, if you’re really good, instead of you seeking them out, they will seek you out.
Look what business luminary Tom Peters says about GPAs:
Never hire a human being who had a 4.0 in college. If they had a perfect GPA, it means they bought the act and never screwed around. Now a 2.0 is probably not so good. But the ones who had 3.0, yeah! Those are the freaks you want!
(More commentary on this from Ian Ybarra.)
Most people don’t think this. They want a job after college, and that’s where their 4 years goes. I would ALWAYS hire a B-student who can show me she understands technology and is passionate about what she does, over someone who shows me he spent 4 years in the library and has no tolerance for risk or real skills (except test-taking).
Are you stuck by convention?
Let’s see what a couple of other hardcore entrepreneurs have to say about it.
Paul Graham notes this in his absolutely excellent essay, Hiring is Obsolete:
I asked managers at Yahoo, Google, Amazon, Cisco and Microsoft how they’d feel about two candidates, both 24, with equal ability, one who’d tried to start a startup that tanked, and another who’d spent the two years since college working as a developer at a big company. Every one responded that they’d prefer the guy who’d tried to start his own company. Zod Nazem, who’s in charge of engineering at Yahoo, said:
I actually put more value on the guy with the failed startup. And you can quote me!
So there you have it. Want to get hired by Yahoo? Start your own company.
You don’t necessarily have to start your own company. But if you want the jobs that aren’t announced on the email list, and you want to just have a more fun time at college, you do have to do interesting stuff. Publish papers. Start a student group. Travel a bunch and take cool photographs. Get 10 friends together and meet the CEOs of the biggest companies around, and write up what you learned. Do anything beyond just your classes!
In the end, I think it’s actually more risky to focus exclusively on classes. Why? Because you have to compete against everyone else who will be trying to get jobs using the same critera: grades. I hate competing against other people directly, so I’d rather simply go around them.
Finally, Seth Godin weighs in:
I had two brushes with higher education this week.
The first was at a speech I gave in New York. There were several Harvard Business School students there, invited because of their interest in marketing and exceptional promise…
Anyway, they asked for my advice in finding marketing jobs. When I shared my views (go to a small company, work for the CEO, get a job where you actually get to make mistakes and do something) one woman professed to agree with me, but then explained, “But those companies don’t interview on campus.”
Those companies don’t interview on campus. Hmmm. She has just spent $100,000 in cash and another $150,000 in opportunity cost to get an MBA, but…
The second occurred today at Yale. As I drove through the amazingly beautiful campus, I passed the center for Asian Studies. It reminded me of my days as an undergrad (at a lesser school, natch), browsing through the catalog, realizing I could learn whatever I wanted. That not only could I take classes but I could start a business, organize a protest movement, live in a garret off campus, whatever. It was a tremendous gift, this ability to choose.
Yet most of my classmates refused to choose. Instead, they treated college like an extension of high school. They took the most mainstream courses, did the minimum amount they needed to get an A, tried not to get into “trouble” with the professor or face the uncertainty of the unknowable. They were the ones who spent six hours a day in the library, reading their textbooks.
The best part of college is that you could become whatever you wanted to become, but most people just do what they think they must.
There’s more to school than grades and getting a job. What are you going to do?
Articles I quoted:
Ian Ybarra: Are you a freak?
Paul Graham: Hiring is Obsolete
Seth Godin: The power (and the fear) of self determination
What now? See my other articles on personal entrepreneurship.
Oh my god, i never know this will happen but it has. I am featured in The Hindu yet again. This time not my picture but my name.
Put it on paper
ISSUE Join young crusader Mathew Jose’s recycling campaign to save the environment. HEMA VIJAY reports
How do you go about saving 17,000 trees, get some 3,000 girl children educated, and ingrain the spirit of recycling paper and other things in thousands of individuals?
Well, if you are an enterprising young environmentalist like Mathew Jose, it might only require a one-point solution, like the Recycle Week 2011 campaign. Launched on July 18 through Paperman, the NGO that Mathew runs, Recycle Week 2011 has already seen the registration of 40 organisations, including firms such as the MARG group and schools such as Chinmaya Vidyalaya. The campaign will be on till October 16. “You can choose your week and organise a paper recycle drive at your home/apartment/office/institution, and send the proceeds of the sale to Nanhi Kali, a girl child project supported by the K.C. Mahindra Educational Trust,” Mathew informs. However, the recycle week campaign is only a small part of Paperman’s story.
Young Mathew Jose doesn’t quite confirm to the general image of the average ‘paper man’, who swaps old newspapers for some money. In any case, Mathew and his friends Gayathri Manoharan, Harsh Khadloya, and Kiruthika Somasundaram are out there, working to upgrade the social standing of our unsung ‘paper men’.
I am honoured :D. I have highlighted my name in purple for your convenience. Yet again i am showing off.
When i was a kid, i have always wondered if my dad doesn’t like me, because he never showed any expressions whenever i showed off about my little achievements to him. But only now i realize how much he cherishes every small accomplishments of mine. He has always been there for me, kept me grounded and helped me learn from my mistakes.
Dad’s love is always special because that love is untold. I love my dad :). I have never had the chance to say this to him personally but i hope one day he’ll start using the net to find out about my love for him. After all i inherited his standoffish and non-expressive characteristics of him, so let my love for him also be untold.
This blog post may not have sequential sentences but it has the true love.
Liffy thomas, a senior reporter in The Hindu was in our campus this tuesday(12th, july 2011). We showcased our startups. Here’s our posed picture for The Hindu :). I almost showed off this to as many people as possible. Now blog posting it to show off more. I look sick but never mind, I was featured in The Hindu 😀
Here’s how the story goes.
I applied for an Paid internship at Paperman on April 12 2011 at 9:53 am and wasn’t able to attend ‘coz of my exams. Finally after finishing my exams, during the end of my vacation i just had an idea to associate myself with a start up and learn in the process. That’s when i approached Paperman again(during the last week of june). A decision that not only gave me a wonderful week of learning and experience but also the chance to meet 3 nice people Mathew, Gayathri and Harsh(My Colleagues at Paperman). Now i proudly a part of a NGO which works for a Green cause to support a Social cause.
I am just trying to pen down some of the things i learnt during the internship.
Content writing is something anyone joining any new start up should do for at least a day because that’s when you read a lot about them and their activities.
You don’t need a fancy well furnished office to work on your passion.
You should be a Jack of all trades and Master of one trade.
It’s always them and not us/Our when it’s comes to promoting a people’s movement.
Marketing yourself as a brand is important.
Achievable goal setting and pushing yourself hard to attain the goal is all it takes to make your work productive.
Continual Self assessment #ftw.
Now about Mathew, Harsh, Gayathri.
Harsh was a silent guy who talks less and is standoffish. Haven’t had a chance to know about him a lot but he was a nice chap to work with.
Gayathri, one of the amazing people i’ve ever met. We shared stories about books and programming languages, developed talks about how sucky twilight series was, how awesome percy jackson is and much more. Colleague+mentor+friend= Gayathri
Mathew Jose, the CEO of paperman is the cool boss anyone can ever have. He is a man of energy and enthusiasm.
One final concluding line: Every one should be part of a start up/NGO ‘coz that is where the awesomness happens